Debate: Lilananda & Adikarta On Consuming Milk Part 1 of 3

Lilananda’s comment on Sivaram Swami’s video Can Vegans Consume Milk?   (See video links at the end of this page)

September 2, 2017 at 8:01am

The information provided in this video is highly misleading because it does not present the downside of consuming dairy products. There is plenty of scientific information from reputable sources that shows the negative effect of dairy products on human health. There are studies that show its positive impact, however, they are often sponsored by the dairy industry. Here is some information from the book The China Study: “But that’s not all. We found that not all proteins had this effect. What protein consistently and strongly promoted cancer? Casein, which makes up 87% of cow’s milk protein, promoted all stages of the cancer process. What type of protein did not promote cancer, even at high levels of intake? The safe proteins were from plants, including wheat and soy. As this picture came into view, it began to challenge and then to shatter some of my most cherished assumptions.”

The China Study The Most Comprehensive Study of Nutrition Ever Conducted and the Startling Implications for Diet, Weight Loss and Long-term Health T. Colin Campbell, PhD WITH Thomas M. Campbell II, MD

Additional comment from Lilananda dasa September 4, 2017  at 6:18am

The Apple tree example is logically faulty for the following reason: apple trees do produce baby apple trees. However, unlike calves, baby apple trees do not consume apples and leave extra ones for human beings. I am not 100% convinced calves will not drink all their mother’s milk if allowed. I did manage a dairy farm and we had to separate the calves from their mother, otherwise they would drink all the milk. And I have seen the same happening in the neighbors’ farms.

Comment from AK September 4, 2017 at 8:11pm

Adikarta Das Lilananda prabhu, Hare Krishna. I completely understand why you might choose to be a vegan. However, Vedic culture very strongly advocates the benefits of cows, in many different ways. It’s possible that pasteurized or homogenized milk are questionable for the health, still, raw milk from healthy grass fed cows, is, according to the Vedas, absolutely essential for long term good health. We only believe in Krishna because of the Vedas. Without the Vedas, we are left groping in the dark. Great that you sympathize with the cows, but I hope your health stays good. The British health authorities are very concerned about the rise of Veganism in the UK, {more than US} because they say that in the long term many young Vegans will suffer from the Vegan diet. Yes, Srila Prabhupada may have possibly condoned the Vegan diet, but we can’t say for sure, it means he would have to have contradicted himself quite strongly. Bottom line is that he wanted farms where we could all support protected cows, and get the benefit from the milk products.

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